Showing posts with label women's prayer groups. Show all posts
Showing posts with label women's prayer groups. Show all posts

Sunday, May 5, 2013

Women's Prayer Groups

     When I was 12 a good friend of mine was the first person I had ever met to have a bat mitzvah in a woman's prayer group. A few of my friends said that they davened at home before showing up to the bat mitzvah as protest. I remember at the time thinking that a women's prayer group was odd , but not much else. It was not much different than women just praying together . I guess the strangest part was hearing a woman read from the Torah.
      For me the issue of women's prayer groups is not so much whether or not they should read from the Torah with a bracha or if they should call themselves a minyan. I was never the type who wanted to read from the Torah, although the thought of being counted as part of a minyan seems kind of cool. In my mind going to shul is about being a part of the group, not about being separate  though the only shuls I attend have mechitzahs.  I attend shuls where I can see and hear what is going  on from my side of the mechitzah. If I went to a shul where this was not so and if there was a mechitzh kiddush I may think differently.
     My first Rosh Hashana in New York was spent at a shul in Boro Park where the women's section was a floor above the men's section. and there was a square the size of a small box cut into the floor of the women's section which was your only contact with what was going on in the men's section. All the women were chatting. I can't say that I blamed them. You could not hear or see anything that was going on in the men's section. It bothered me that I could not hear the shofar. I never went back there again.
     I have always attended Orthodox shuls so the idea of a mechitzah was never something that I had thought much about. As long as I was able to hear the service and have enough space to to sit in the women's section I was okay. When I went to the kotel it would always bother me that  I never was able to pray with a minyan.  I would always daven on my own. I could never tell what was going on in the men's section even when I knew that there was a minyan. 

Saturday, July 14, 2012

women's prayer groups

    When I was 12 a good friend of mine had her bat mitzvah at a women's  "minyan." Since I myself was twelve at the time I hadn't really put much thought much about women's prayer groups.
     It did seem unusual to hear a woman read from the Torah.  This particular women's prayer group said the brachot upon reading the Torah which I found out later is a no-no even if a woman actually reading from the Torah isn't actually  an issue.
      Since I tend to be on the shy side it never phased me that women aren't included in a minyan or read from the Torah in front of many or anyone else for that matter. I know that other women may think differently, but it never really phased me. I have been to women's prayer groups but the thing that I like about going to shul is that there are men and women . The shuls that I attend do not have a mechitzah at the kiddush. I suppose if all shuls had a mechitzah at the kiddush I might go to a women's prayer group because then what's the difference. I have no problem with a mechitzah for davening but a mechitzah during the kiddush is too much.  I  view shul kiddushes as a social opportunity. Sue me. Its just an opportunity to be social. And if I meet someone in the process even better.